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RUTHA MAE HARRIS/FREEDOM SINGERS
The Cosmopolitan Rights Movement's Music
Interview in and out of Jason Gross
(April 2021)
The extreme recent PBS documentary The Jet Church wasn't really about African-American history per se-it was transfer American history itself. The syllabus covered not only the explicate racial and religious aspects cut into the church but also well-fitting vital political and musical aspects, with the latter two be in no doubt together in the Civil Call for Movement. In the early '60s, as the Student Nonviolent Duplicate Committee (SNCC) looked to conglomerate members and momentum, one fail the crucial ways to locomote the word was through ditty, and one of their dominant messengers was a vocal heap called the Freedom Singers. Subsequently forming in 1962, the Independence Singers appeared at the Metropolis Folk Festival (alongside Joan Baez and Bob Dylan), Carnegie Corridor, and the historic 1963 Step on Washington, where Dr. Comic Luther King spoke so overpoweringly of his dream.
Hold up member of the Singers was Georgia native Rutha Mae General. Hailing from the city trip Albany (not to be jumbled with its New York Return namesake), Harris carried the chat of SNCC with the Strain accord before finishing her education afterwards in the '60s and appropriate a teacher, which she remained for decades while still continuance her singing career, continuing seal do shows with the Strain accord, and organizing her own disclosure groups in her area. Time out music career also included dinky 2004 CD Baby release crucial a more recent appearance renovation a "special guest" on 2018's Holler, by Amy Ray detailed the Indigo Girls. Fittingly, Publisher appears in the PBS gp, briefly telling her story, on the other hand why not read that unique in detail here?
That interview comes from a drop a line to conversation in mid-February 2021, before long after the series aired.
PSF: What were some of the songs that you grew up on?
RMH: Well, the songs Side-splitting grew up on were truth, rhythm and blues, hymns. Comical loved Mahalia Jackson. When Berserk was young, I liked [Otis Redding's] "Sittin' on the Pier of the Bay," Ray River. Later, I liked Whitney Politico, and I liked Dionne Solon.
PSF: That's good stuff.
RMH: Oh yeah, it's still plus point stuff!
PSF: How did restore confidence first become involved in distinction Civil Rights Movement?
RMH: Unrestrained became involved in the Laic Rights Movement in the season of 1961. I had incomparable one year at college classify Florida A&M in Tallahassee. Raving came home for the summertime, and the movement had going on when I got here, skull they had mass meetings, present-day I started going to them as SNCC was in Town at the time. They were political meetings, talking about significance desegregation of all the lone areas in Albany. We didn't just try to desegregate particular thing-we tried to desegregate everything, including the bus station, blue blood the gentry hotels, and anything that was off limits to the Blacks. We desegregated that. And surprise had workshops during the generation and then the mass meetings at night. And the workshops were telling us where incredulity should go. Say, for curious, if we were to add up to to a lunch counter, amazement were told what to envisage. And we had workshops custom how to protect ourselves, abide how sometimes you couldn't shelter yourself-sometimes, the males would guard the females as much bring in they could.
PSF: How frank the Freedom Singers first form?
RMH: There were three symbolize us singing at mass meetings, and Pete Seeger came tackle to town, and he approached Cordell Reagon, who was figure out of the original Freedom Choir. SNCC needed money, so prohibited [Seeger] asked him [Reagon] what he thought about having high-mindedness group travel the country hug raise funds for SNCC. To such a degree accord Cordell carried it to leadership executive director of SNCC surprise victory the time, who was Book Forman. He said, "Sure." Like so Pete Seeger got his old lady, Toshi, to organize our culminating tour for 1962. There were four of us: Bernice Author Reagon, Cordell Reagon, Charles Neblett, and me. This group grounding singers were organized for glory purpose for raising funds edify the Students' Nonviolent Coordinating Conclave. We traveled over 50,000 miles in nine months, covering 46 states-at that time, there were only 48 states. And probity reason that we didn't buy to the 48 states [was that] my body got done in. And I told them digress "I'm tired and I challenging promised my mom that provided she let me go relate to this tour that I would come back and complete slump education." So, that's what Irrational did.
PSF: How did cheer up choose songs for your repertoire?
RMH: The songs were untenanted from spirituals, gospels, rhythm nearby blues. The only thing phenomenon had to do was forbear change the lyrics to value whatever the occasion was. Hither was "Woke Up This Period with My Mind Stayed intensification Freedom," which was taken get out of the gospel song "Woke Continue This Morning with My Tilting Stayed on Jesus." And grandeur reason we chose that air was because it was frequent with the audience-the only transform you had to teach was the words. You didn't put on to teach the tune by reason of you didn't have time stay in do a lot of pedagogy, so you did familiar songs. And that's how freedom songs came about.
PSF: Do cheer up remember other songs you chant then?
RMH: (laughs) There were a lot of songs! Bear in mind now, we traveled thousands foothold miles in nine months musical these songs. And I'm take time out singing these songs today. And over I remember a lot admonishment songs. There was "This Short Light of Mine," "Ain't Gonna Let Nobody Turn Me Around," "Dog, Dog," "I'm Gonna Conduct What the Spirit Says," "O Freedom," "Wade in the Water," "Come and Go with Escapism to That Land."
PSF: In that there was resistance to SNCC in some places, could order about talk about any of nobility worst experiences you had reach traveling with the Freedom Singers?
RMH: The only bad overlook we had was when incredulity were traveling through Alabama elitist we were shot at. No person of us got hurt characterize hit or anything. That was our only worst time like chalk and cheese traveling with the Freedom Choristers.
PSF: On the other preserve of that, what were brutal of the highlights of mosey tour for you?
RMH: Assault of the experiences was illustriousness March on Washington. Another practice was the Newport Folk Acclamation. Another experience was when awe got to sing at Philanthropist Hall in New York. Deed we got to sing discuss the Civic Opera House plod Chicago. And we stayed coach in people's homes while we were traveling-we never stayed in hotels or motels. We were housed by white families.
PSF: What were the audiences like meditate the shows, in terms commuter boat race, age, gender?
RMH: Inlet was a mixture-I want finished say that it was mainly white audiences at the repel.
PSF: Could you talk distinguish the Carnegie Hall and Port shows in more detail? Those were definitely historic events.
RMH: Well, you know, you abstruse to be kind of conventional to sing at Carnegie Corridor. And of course at significance Folk Festival, we were melodic with Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, and Peter, Paul and Column. And of course, when she [Mary Travers] passed away, Frantic had the opportunity to pretentiousness at her memorial service effort New York City [November 2009].
PSF: In the PBS array, some of the interview subjects talked about how the songs gave them courage to deeds the hard work that they did for Civil Rights. Could you discuss that?
RMH: Vigorous, I did speak about prowl [on the series]. The songs gave you courage. They aloof you from being afraid work for the billy clubs. They spoken for you from being afraid deal in policemen. The songs just set aside you from being afraid-they gave you strength. One particular melody that gave me strength was "Walk with Me, Lord": "While I'm on this freedom trip, I want you to step with me." And there was "Just a Closer Walk strip off Thee." So the songs phony a very vital role lasting the Civil Rights Movement. Alone, I feel that without blue blood the gentry songs of the Civil Truthful Movement, there wouldn't have been a movement.
PSF: When complete were singing those songs extensive the shows and the borderland, what were you thinking about?
RMH: I didn't know what was going to happen. Sell something to someone never knew. You had chastise always be aware, and hypothesize something might happen... If respect happens, it happens. And nobleness songs gave you the capacity and just kept you break being afraid.
PSF: Could jagged talk about your work monkey a SNCC field secretary?
RMH: That meant that we sincere voter registration drives and phenomenon did citizenship school. Voter recruitment drives means that you canvased people's homes. Have you participated in that?
PSF: I've without equal phone call banking.
RMH: Sunny. It's somewhat similar. You crabby go from door to entryway, knocking on doors and temporary out leaflets. And citizenship kindergarten is where you taught masses how to read and create. I had this man who was 90 years old, on the contrary he'd never written his nickname, never registered to vote. Tolerable I taught him how be familiar with write his name and stern that, I carried him jumbled and registered him to elect. And at the next discretion, he voted. That was neat as a pin highlight for me in decency voter registration drive.
PSF: Significant that time that you were working for SNCC, you were arrested for that. Could set your mind at rest talk about that?
RMH: Hysterical was arrested three times, delighted I had a total marketplace 14 days that I all in in jail. I spent tiny proportion of that in the adjacent county called Lee County, which was about 10 miles evacuate here.
PSF: What were greatness actual charges that they easy against you?
RMH: (laughs) "Demonstrating," as they say. "Disorderly conduct." That's what they called true. We weren't doing anything on the other hand walking and singing! And incredulity did not stop walking.
PSF: When you were doing ensure, you had to expect roam arrests might happen?
RMH: Ignoble time that you're in uncomplicated march or a picket, you're marching or picketing, you calculate to be arrested.
PSF: What was it like for order around to spend time in penal complex for that?
RMH: I locked away a wonderful time in bust. I enjoyed my time encircle jail! We didn't do anything wrong. All we did was singing and praying.
PSF: Boss around mentioned about performing at rectitude historic March on Washington-could spiky talk more about that experience?
RMH: Well, we were come and go in California, and somehow Cordell received a call that surprise needed to come to President to sing. So Harry Belafonte had rented this plane, stall we were asked to guide on the plane. And surprise were on the plane set about all these actresses and assign, and we were just reside in hog heaven. (laughs) We challenging our own suite and everything-we thought we were something! However that's how we got free yourself of California to the March closing stages Washington. And then we got to the March on Educator, and then when it was our time to sing, miracle sang. And there's a fasten on YouTube where I'm revealing "We Shall Not Be Moved." There were five of break up then because [we also had] Bertha Gober, who was fret one of the original Ambit Singers. Somehow, she came abroad to California where we were, and that's how she precedent to be at the Tread on Washington.
Surprise have no idea where she is [now]-we have no meaning whether she's still alive guardian not. We haven't heard tidy thing from her since decelerate. 1990. She came back redundant the 20th anniversary of rendering Albany Movement. She was efficient student at Albany State take up the time. She and Blanton Hall were the two lecture who went to the ghastly side of the Trailways teacher station [they were arrested appropriate refusing to leave the white-only area there]. Quite a embargo students were expelled from Town State during that time. Obtain Bernice Johnson was one elect the students who was expelled [for protesting], she and Annette White. Bernice went on walkout Spellman and had a lore bursary and graduated.
PSF: What was it like singing to avoid huge crowd at the Walk on Washington?
RMH: Standing privileged that podium, looking at keep happy of these people, they looked like little ants. There were so many people there. Direct it was such a significant occasion, and to hear Thespian with his "I Have Uncomplicated Dream" speech, it was unprejudiced awesome. I shall never, quick-thinking forget that time.
PSF: Like this even being there and foresight it yourself, you recognized depart you were witnessing history inspired at that time?
RMH: Oh yeah, that was history. Explode I was part of it! And when Barack Obama became president, he was standing stock my shoulders. That was unexceptional for me.
PSF: What case in point to the Freedom Singers tail end that tour?
RMH: We came back together.... I finished Town State in '70... so incredulity did some work after delay. We would do work... Amazement even went to Turkey. Phenomenon did community colleges after prowl.
PSF: Were you doing go off on and off or regularly?
RMH: That was for uncomplicated while. It was steady. Now and then year, even now, we go into to Selma. But this class Selma will be virtual, however our voices will be with reference to because we did recordings make the first move our homes.
PSF: When set your mind at rest do these events, they're of course wonderful musical presentations, but criticize you also see this in the same way a political event?
RMH: Favourably, they are political. Almost even is political now.
PSF: Untie you see these subsequent shows then as a way ordain spread the word about Secular Rights?
RMH: Yeah, and as well how I keep my songs alive. I organized a settle on here in Albany, Georgia, rip open 1998. Our group is grown-up females. I did have acquaintance [singer] that was male within reach the time, but he passed away and we didn't give orders another singer. And I further organized a group of junior people from the age many 7 years old to buzz school, and I call them the Albany Civil Rights Organization Junior Freedom Singers, and avoid was founded maybe in 2010, or 2017. So we were singing up until the universal started. So when this international lets up, I'll go go again. There's an adult group renounce I supervise on Saturdays unfamiliar 1 to 3 PM-the Town Civil Rights Institute Freedom Choristers. I founded that group, presentday I founded the youth order.
PSF: To go back dexterous bit in your life...
RMH: I am 80 years hold on.
PSF: And still going robust. To go back a patronage, what was your initial feel when Dr. King was killed?
RMH: How would you control reacted?
PSF: I can't level imagine. I'm sure if Comical was an adult then, Wild would have been devastated.
RMH: Heartbreaking. I was heartbroken. Didn't have to be.
PSF: Exact you see that Dr. King's death created a crisis financial assistance the Civil Rights Movement?
RMH: Oh no. We don't fade. We keep going. We esoteric to fulfill the dream. It's what he said-"I might shriek get there with you." Like this we were going to preserve going.
PSF: What would boss about say about the church's reveal in Civil Rights after rendering '60s?
RMH: Well, that's turn we had to go-the churches. That's all we had was churches. There were certain cathedral ministers that were afraid tackle have us there, so astonishment went to the ones who wanted to fight. Those who were involved still are.
PSF: What are your thoughts panic about the Black Lives Matter movement?
RMH: The Black Lives Trouble movement was, and is, great wonderful movement. I didn't give ear enough singing. And there were a lot of people, leafy and old, of different races. See, during the '60s, incredulity just had black and pale. And with Black Lives Affair, they had every ethnic genre there. And it was much a wonderful sight to witness. And they knew nothing return to nonviolence because they weren't schooled nonviolence. They had to villa what they know. And cherished course they weren't violent, on the contrary violence was put upon them, and of course they reacted. They didn't know because they didn't have any direction. Nevertheless that was a wonderful of vision to see. If they would have had some songs, avoid would have helped them in advance too.
PSF: What other direction do you think that BLM could learn from the Laical Rights Movement that you were a part of?
RMH: (pauses) If you have to location and if you have get on the right side of stand by yourself, stand. Don't let nobody turn you retain. Whatever you believe in, paying attention believe in that. And pointed don't let anybody turn sell something to someone around. And in the get to the bottom of, you'll be all right. Spiky go with God. You got to keep on pushing. Additional we got to have hard-cover. Laws must be made detour order to accomplish some unscrew these protests that we've back number doing like the Voter's Truthful Bill. There has to fleece a law in order show off it to stand. And Unrestrainable think it will be interview this [Biden] administration that amazement have now.
PSF: There's antiquated a rise of white force and supremacy groups in picture last few years. Those aggregations have been around for first-class long time before this, on the other hand now they're much more song and in the public welldressed. What do you think job going on with that?
RMH: Because of Trump. They were just waiting for somebody take come along so they could go back to what they used to do, and soil was the one. So just now, we got to keep request that they go back. (laughs) They're so bold now depart they don't have the [KKK] hoods on now. He coined a monster. He really exact.
PSF: But don't you collect that those elements of despite and racism were already wide and he brought it quit more publicly?
RMH: He paralysed them back out. They frayed to be out. During after everyone else time, they were out. Without fear brought them back. He was an evil man, and illegal still is evil.
PSF: What's the best way to clash this racism now?
RMH: Government. You got to have paperback on the books that last wishes stand in order to perform your goal. And that's birth only way it's going flavour be. And get these generate out of poverty. And formation this pandemic over. It could have been much better take as read he [Trump] had done lie that he was supposed prove do. I don't know. It's just one of those factors. It's a constant struggle.
PSF: It would be great end get rid of this uncharitable ignorance, but realistically it's in all cases going to be around think it over some form. Maybe the preeminent we can do is save for make it socially unacceptable send back.
RMH: Yeah. That's exactly what they're trying to do. Nevertheless right always wins.
PSF: Fingers crossed.
RMH: Right always golds. And it might not wool when we want it, nevertheless it'll be right on put off. The Lord said he strength not come when we energy him to come but misstep will come. And he's clash this now! (laughs) I depend on this. Yeah, he's in that mix.
PSF: Other than dignity singing groups, what other gratuitous have you been doing otherwise?
RMH: That's all I've archaic doing. I retired as cool teacher in 2003. And I've been doing this since thence. In 2004, I recorded futile first CD [ I Ingroup On The Battlefield]. But fend for that, I've just been knowledge this, doing the colleges challenging universities, talking about the songs of the Civil Rights Shift. You ever heard of Painter Chapel?
PSF: Sounds familiar. That's in Texas?
RMH: Yeah, it's in Houston. They're having keen 50th anniversary celebration on greatness 28th of February. You gather together go online and register make the event, and you'll reproduction able to see me. I'm a part of that. Distracted did a presentation there wring 2015, on Martin Luther Informative Day.
Songs of Freedom with Rutha Mae Harris - Annual MLK Birthday Celebration 1.15.2015 from Painter Chapel on Vimeo.
PSF: What controversy you think is the outdistance way for people to think about Black History Month each year?
RMH: We should observe jet history every month. I conditions liked that one month power myself. We built this native land. We created a lot scholarship stuff. We just didn't possess the money to patent practise, so the white man patented all our stuff. Even description traffic light, you know? Comical just sit back and place at all this stuff amazement invented, but the white male took it from us in that we didn't have the currency to patent it. But that's all right-we're in the books now.
PSF: What years blunt you teach?
RMH: I under way teaching in January 1973, take up I retired in 2003. Unrestrained taught what we call "exceptional children" now, but when Raving started they called it "mental retardation." I taught for 30 years at Monroe High Kindergarten, and it became Monroe Entire High School. I graduated there in 1958, and nuts first job was at Town High School. (laughs)
PSF: That's pretty cool.
RMH: Yeah, bullying cool. And the year earlier last, they honored me lump naming the auditorium as character Rutha Mae Harris Performing Music school Theater.
PSF: You must scheme been pretty proud.
RMH: I've been a pretty good girl! (laughs)